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You Can Feel Afraid And Still Act
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Come and listen to our Host, Tina Spoletini, as she chats with inspiring guest Shawna MacNeil for our "Victory Over Fear" Podcast Mini-Series.
This powerful series explores what it truly means to move forward despite uncertainty, self-doubt, and life's challenges. Through authentic conversations, personal stories, and practical wisdom, we uncover how courage is built one step at a time. Fear may be loud, but it doesn't have to have the final say.
Together, we'll discover how healing, faith, resilience, and action can help us overcome the barriers that keep us stuck. Whether you're facing a major life transition, stepping into a new opportunity, or simply learning to trust yourself again, these conversations will encourage you to embrace bravery and move confidently toward your purpose.
Join us as we celebrate the strength found in vulnerability, the growth that comes from taking risks, and the victories that happen when we choose courage over fear.
Shawna MacNeil is an entrepreneur, business consultant, digital creator, and co-founder of Soultuary Wellness Center.
With a background in business, marketing, finance, operations, and leadership, Shawna helps entrepreneurs and organizations build strong foundations, create clear strategies, improve systems, and grow with authenticity.
Her work blends practical business development with mindset, communication, and relationship-building, helping businesses become more aligned, profitable, and purposeful.
As co-founder of Soultuary Wellness Center, Shawna is passionate about creating spaces that support nervous system regulation, healing, renewal, and whole-person wellness. At the heart of everything she does is a commitment to helping people and businesses grow with integrity, intention, and impact.
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Fear gets loud when we’re growing, and we can still take the next step even while we feel it. We talk with Shauna McNeil about impostor syndrome, visibility, and nervous system tools that make courage easier to access in real life.
• why impostor syndrome shows up at every level of business
• redefining “expert” as experience and results
• treating mistakes as feedback instead of failure
• why praising effort builds braver humans than praising “smart”
• choosing the right people to share your ideas with
• how childhood programming shapes adult fear responses
• discernment as a skill for decisions, money, and risk
• why being seen triggers judgment fears for many women
• how fear lives in the body through fight, flight, freeze, fawn
• practical regulation supports like floating, neurofeedback, massage, and cold exposure
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Welcome And Big Theme
SPEAKER_00It's Divas the Care Radio. Stories, strategies, and ideas to inspire positive change. Welcome to Divas that Care, a network of women committed to making our world a better place for everyone. This is a global movement for women, by women engaged in a collaborative effort to create a better world for future generations. To find out more about the movement, visit divasletcare.com after the show. Right now, though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
SPEAKER_02Welcome back to Confidence in Bloom, the podcast for women who are learning to trust themselves, reclaim their confidence, and step boldly into the next chapter of their lives. Today's conversation is for anyone who has ever felt fear holding them back, fear of being seen, fear of making the wrong decision, fear of judgment, failure, or even success. Joining me today is Shauna McNeil, entrepreneur, business consultant, digital creator, and co-founder of Soltuary Wellness Center. Shauna blends practical business strategy with mindset, leadership, communication, and wellness, helping people and businesses grow with more authenticity, alignment, and purpose. And what I love about Shauna's work is that she understands success isn't just about systems and strategy. It's also about nervous system regulation, healing, emotional resilience, and learning how to move forward, even when fear is present. This conversation is all about courage, healing, and taking action anyway.
Impostor Syndrome And Expertise
SPEAKER_02So let's dive into this powerful conversation on victory over fear. Welcome, Shauna. Hi, thanks for having me. I'm so excited to have you here. Okay, so I want to go straight to fear here because fear seems to be a big word lately. Uh fear is very loud, right? But it also we can still move forward when we're in fear. Now you work, yeah, you work with both businesses and people on growth and alignment. So in your experience, what are some of the biggest fears that quietly hold people back from stepping into their next level?
SPEAKER_01Um well, almost everybody I've ever met has a little bit of what they call um imposter syndrome. So they feel like maybe I'm not the expert, or they have a a different ex a different um looking for expectation of what that word actually means, right? And so I've had a bunch of people who I would consider are experts in their field, and they're like, oh no, I'm just a nobody. And it's like, no, you really are an expert in your field. And so just to give them that confidence and that boost and for them to talk through their their stuff. Um, and there's not an entrepreneur I have met yet, and it doesn't matter if they're small business, right to like multi-million dollar businesses that don't have that imposter syndrome that where they feel like, oh, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. Why am I the one to do this? And unfortunately that's a thing, but we all have to work through it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, I've I've been told by my mentors many times that Tina, you're the, you know, you're an expert in your field. And I and I have that, like, I don't, I don't think that that's true, right? And and I and I and I mean that like when I say that, I do mean that in my heart, right? Like I really don't believe that I'm a I'm a full expert. I mean, yes, there's things I know, right? I can't play completely stupid, right? There are things that I know. Is that something that most women are like? Like, is that a woman thing? Because I've heard like men, they show their confidence in a different way, right? I'm sure there's men and women too that you know are similar, but I feel like that imposter syndrome is I don't know what quite the word is. I wouldn't say that it's most in women. I don't want women to feel like, oh, all women are like because I don't believe that. But that you know, the when we call ourselves, like we we title, we give ourselves a title as an ex expert, right away women are like, whoa, right? Like I don't want to take that kind of you know commitment onto myself, even though it's true, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, I what I can tell you is I've I've done a lot of corporate work right down to like now being an entrepreneur and still doing a lot of contract work with corporations. Um, and I've done a lot of um being in groups where you know women get together and talk about a lot of these things. And one of the biggest statistics I have ever learned is that when it comes to, let's say, a resume, a man potentially look at this resume and go, I got two out of those 10 items, I'm gonna rock this and they'll go apply. Where a woman, if they don't have at least nine or 10 of the 10 things that they're looking for, they're like, you know what, I can't even apply. And so really, it comes down to as women, if we feel like we can't do a really great job and we have all of it figured out, then we're not even gonna attempt it. And what I can tell you is in my entrepreneurship journey, is I just take one step at a time and I learn as I go. And to be honest with you, all of the mistakes I've made, any of what I what some people would consider failures, to me is a learning lesson and feedback. So I learned from each one of them. I'm not afraid to get back up and try again. Um, it's the each time I keep trying again where I learn something new and can pivot. Like a lot of people call me the unicorn because I can literally walk into any business and see so many different things and they're like, how did you do that? I'm like, because I really messed up a lot. Like I've made a lot of mistakes and I've learned from every one of them. And but I'm able to pivot in things where people are like, I wouldn't even have attempted that, right? They wouldn't even give it a try because they're petrified to even take that one little step where I'm like letting again because I'm I'm so used to it now. Um, and so like you're right. I don't want to say it's a women thing and compared to a men thing, but the men have different kind of confidence, and I think it's all per in perspective, right? What is the definition of an expert? It's just someone who's been really good at it. Doesn't mean you had to take a course in it, doesn't mean you need a degree in it, doesn't mean it just means you've had a lot of experience in it and you know how to navigate that particular topic. Doesn't mean you know all of the topics,
Failure As Feedback And Effort
SPEAKER_01just means you know that particular topic.
SPEAKER_02Right, exactly. And the whole failure thing, I mean, we have to fail, right? We don't, if we don't fail, we will never learn a different way of anything. I remember when my kids were little, yeah, I was struggling with the whole potty training thing. Yes, yeah, right. And I remember, you know, going to the doctor and he said, Don't worry, your kid's not gonna be 10 years old in grade five and still wearing diapers. And I didn't believe him, you know. And he said to me, Listen, get off his back, forgot carbon on him, right? And he will figure it out, but he's gonna have to do it on his own. And sometimes that means we have to let them fail. And I was like, Oh, you know, for sure. My first kids, I'm like, no, no, I don't want my kids to fail. They have to be perfect, right? Because then that, you know, their future won't look the same. And he was like, No, you have it all wrong. You need to let them fail, let them figure it out. And it's kind of the same. Like, I consider my business now my baby, right? Because my baby, oh, for sure. And that's kind of how I'm looking at it, like, you know, but but when it comes to the whole failure part, I'm like, move, right? I don't really want to do that. I want to get it. I don't want to make a mistake.
SPEAKER_01But you know what I love about mistakes though, is that you're very authentic with it. And if you can be like, oh wow, look at that lesson I just learned in this particular thing. I heard um a study, this is probably 15 plus years ago, but they had a group of two different kinds of kids, uh, two different classrooms. One classroom was told the whole time, you're smart, you're smart, you're smart, you guys are so smart, you guys are so good, you're so smart. The other classroom was told, you work really hard. Wow, look at you, look at all that effort you're putting in. Look at all the amazing effort you're putting in. And they did they totally dignified the two different uh classrooms. So that at the end of the day, they said, Okay, we have a pop quiz, and it's your choice if you want to take it. The smart kids, not one of them would take it. All the hardworking kids were like, let's do it. I'm in. They jumped right in because they weren't being put on this pedestal of you're so smart. So they didn't want to break that stigma of, oh God, I may not be smart if I have this pop quiz and I failed today. Whereas if you said to someone, hey, you work really hard, like, look at all that work you put in, look at all those steps, look at that effort. What an amazing thing you're putting that effort in. They're like, Yeah, let's do it again. They're willing to jump in and do that. So I think it's just all about the psychology piece of it too of how do you build that confidence? Do you really want to put them on a pedestal or do you want to be like, look at the effort that you're putting in?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's amazing. Like, if you think about that, that really is an amazing study, right?
SPEAKER_01Because yeah, I mean, I can't remember where I saw it, I just remembered it would land it with me so many years ago. Yeah. And I've tried to implement that with my kids.
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah. Well, and that's the thing I was gonna bring up again with the kids. Like, if you really feed their pride, right? And yeah, you're so you're so awesome at everything you do, they don't know how to take when something goes wrong. They don't know how to take that. You know, whereas if you give them that kind of push by, you know, you but you work really hard, you know how to get things done. They they have a completely different mindset.
SPEAKER_01Oh, night and day. They say helicopter community is probably one of the most dangerous things you could ever do with a child. Is like that, don't do this and don't don't hurt yourself and don't don't lick the spoon. Don't yeah, and it's sad to say because people have such huge fears, and where do the fears come from? The media, the social media, the Dr. Googles, and the it's just live. Yeah, just live, let them go outside, let them explore. I promise you the dirt outside is probably cleaner than the dirt in your house.
SPEAKER_02Isn't that right? Isn't that the truth? Yeah, it's so true. Yeah, we have to learn how to let that go. And you know, that brings us back to you know, like that whole fear and having the courage, right? Like you can have both at the same time, even though they they kind of sit in our brains as uh at opposite ends, right? Like if you have fear, you're not you don't have courage, but really we do, right? And I think many women, you know, sort of believe that their confidence or feeling confident, I guess, is is more believing that you don't have any fear, right? Yeah, like I think we sort of connect the two. So, in your opinion, what do you think courage actually like what does it really look like in real life? You know, like especially during like, you know, a time of change, like if there's uncertainty in your life or you're going through a reinvention.
Courage Through Your Inner Circle
SPEAKER_02Well, I think it's all about how you surround yourself, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_01Like, if you like, for example, if I have a really good business idea, I promise you I'm not running it past my mom and dad. So this is this is a very big psychology thing, is that many people will go, oh, but look at all the things that could go wrong. And da da da da. And all they're doing is they want to protect you from potential harm. Okay, and or they want to keep you the way you are because the way you are is safe.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and if you change, if you change, that changes your relationship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I get that. So they're fearful of like, could you change? Like, I know you as this and I like you as this. And if you change, then you know, you know, it's all about everybody keeping safe. So what they always say when it comes to if you're if you're looking to expand and grow and do other things, surround yourself with the right people. So you will become um like the people that you surround yourself with. So if you're around entrepreneurs, you will become more entrepreneurial. If you are around bankers, you'll become somebody who's more savvy and in credit and and investing and things like that. If you surround yourself with people that love to be victim and stay small, then you're gonna do that too because you're gonna take on the energy of that. So everything in this world is energy, everything. I mean, even water takes on an imprint of energy. And yeah, so it depends on who you really want to surround yourself with. If you want to surround yourself with love and light and and people that are like, you got this, and they'll tell you, yeah, you'll fail, and it's okay to get back up, and yeah, we got your back, and it's okay to take that risk, and it's you know, it's that one shot to take it. And how do they? I think they even said most entrepreneurs go through five businesses before they find the one that is the one that like they stick with, right? Wow, so yeah, that's that's huge. And majority just fail within the first five years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've I've heard that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right? If you take all these kids that are like scared of everything because they've been put on this pedestal, they're too scared to even try as an adult. So they're the ones that'll be your great and corporate employees, they're the ones I want to hire for sure. Um, however, they're they'll never be the owner and be able to have that freedom, the time freedom, money freedom um that the rest of the world could potentially have if you decide to become an entrepreneur. So I don't believe everybody is uh a uh could I don't think everybody could be a really good entrepreneur. I don't think it is for everybody. However, if you have that inkling, don't be afraid. Like, you know, I know so many people are like, oh, but I have that paycheck and it's gonna pay my bills and it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna, I was just um at an event last night where one of the entrepreneurs, she's been in business for nine years and she was in a corporate role ahead of time, and someone said to her last night, like, how did you get the guts to go from this? She goes, Well, I kind of gotta let go and I had a severance, so I took the severance and ran with it and has been in business in nine years ever since. Has it been easy? No, but not we're not gonna say it's easy, nothing's really ever easy, but is it rewarding and worth the effort? And look how much you grow and pivot and you become into a certain alignment with other people, and you're building your network, you build and building your network is your net like just like your net worth. And so everything, everything you know, all of a sudden you're collaborating with people, and the next thing you know, it's expanding and expanding. And you know, the company I'm working for right now, she has been in construction for you know 21 years, let's say, as a project planner. Um, went out on her own six years ago and went from on her own to now a team of eight and over $10 million a year in revenue in six years. Wow, it's impressive.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's awesome. That's really awesome. Good for her. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01She's so good at what she does. Like it's, you know, I'm looking at her system going, I love what you I see on the top end, but let's let's fix the what's on the bottom end so that you can sustain this growth and eventually maybe take yourself out so we can find someone that's like you to run the business, right? And so she's like, Yeah, okay, let's give it a try. So that's what I love to do, is I get to dig in and and look and go, okay, where's that potential loophole? Where you know, can can your foundation sustain your growth, you know, without it toppling over? Can it, you know, all of those fun things? And that's only because I take risks and I'm willing to fail. Right? I'm I'm willing to go, okay, well, we messed up. What do we need? Right. Definitely, you know, I don't take it on as a personal attack. It's more like, okay, great feedback, perfect, great. Let's move forward. Yeah, it's impressive like that what people can do. So I think it's all perception. You know, you can fear what did they say? Fear is like um face what is it? I think it's fear everything and run or face everything and rise.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01The stories that we the stories we tell ourselves in our brain are 90% worse than whatever could actually happen. You will your brain is designed to keep you safe. Your friends and family want to keep you safe. So those stories you will tell yourself, like, but what if this happened? What if that happened? And what if you fly? Look at the bird that's like coming off of the branch, right? Like it's gotta eventually fly. So it's either like I'm gonna either fail and hit the ground, or I could fly.
SPEAKER_02And majority of them fly. Right. Well, and and the thing is like, so when you're looking to make any kind of a change, it doesn't matter what it is, there's really two options. Well, three options. You could stay where you are, is your first option, right? And but then there's you know, yeah, you could fail, and what would that look like? Right. Or you could like really, really fly, like you said, and what would that even look like? What would that feel like? If you fail, you know, the worst that's gonna happen is you're gonna come back
Rewriting Old Programming
SPEAKER_02to where you are, right? If it doesn't work, you so you're you're kind of stuck where you are, but if you fly, like you're gonna change your entire life.
SPEAKER_01So if you think about it, like let's go back to like childhood for a second. When you're born, you have your body, you have your brain, you have your, but you don't you don't know how to walk, you don't know how to talk, you don't know how to eat. Everything everything around you is what your parents' mom and dad did for you, right? So basically you're downloading programs this whole time. You're downloading, oh, I if I do this, my mom knows how to come get me. If I fall, they they'll come pick me up. If I cry, they're gonna change me or give me something to eat, or they figure it out because it's like through programming. Then eventually they move to the next phase of, oh, I can actually talk myself. Oh, I can actually walk. And then they move to the next phase of like, oh, if I cry and get take a tantrum, I get to have my way or have my ice cream too or whatever, right? So it's all programming and they take it on, they suck it in like sponges their whole life. And so if you take on life that way and you go, can I reprogram what I was taught? Because let's say you were grew up where someone were there, like, let's say you were helicopter parents, where no, don't do that. No, you could fail, no, you might fall, no, you might break something, no, no, that's not safe. No, like what if you grew up and around that environment? That's so ingrained in your programming, but there's a potential for you to shift it. So you have the choice to look at it and go, is that mine or is that a program that I've been in? And the first 12 years of your life, you suck all this in like a sponge, right? So the first 12 years, you have no idea that it's a program. It just is. So you're like, oh, you're living your life. All of a sudden you're not getting the results that you're looking for, you're not doing the things, you have fear of everything, you're not actually, you feel like you're stuck. And then you got it, like, you know, if you have the opportunity, like that's why I enjoy integrity seminars, for example, I was able to go in and go, like, really look at myself and go, hmm, like, is this mine or is it something that I learned as a child? And so I thought to myself through the program, like, if I looked at it and um really examined it, did what I'm learning help me and serve me in my lifetime, or was it not serving in my lifetime? And if it was serving, I got to explore it a little bit further. And if it wasn't serving, then I got to then I got to look at, well, what are the other possibilities? And if I keep falling back into the program, what is the benefit of me staying in the program? So sometimes they call it like pays up payoff and grungeies, for example. There could be a payoff for me getting angry, because in anger I can manipulate you to kind of really do what I want you to do, right? So there's that there's a payoff for me staying angry. And at the end of the day, the energy piece of anger is that I'm gonna eventually hurt myself because I'm really punishing myself for someone else's actions. So at the end of the day, is it really smart to stay there, even though I've learned that a payoff is that I get my way? Right? Or can I learn something? Like, okay, can I renegotiate? Can I set a boundary? Can I be like, listen, that didn't feel really good without getting angry? Be like, that didn't feel great. Can we talk about it? Like, there's another way to communicate, and there's other possibilities inside of that programming that you have, if that makes sense. Yeah. A lot of people think there's all I got. No, any day of the week for the rest of your life, you can change. It's always a choice. You either choose to go back to programming or you choose to do something different, and it's often the fear that you talked about that'll keep people from even trying to make the change. New environment. I love that. I moved from Nova Scotia to Alberta. I've been here 19 years now, I never looked back. But at the same time, I'm always like, well, what are the possibilities? I've I've done different careers, I've done banking, I've done government, I've done medical, I've now in construction, I've done spas, I've done, but I enjoy it. I get to learn and grow and expand and get to meet all these new people. It's all it's all a choice. For sure.
SPEAKER_02And I mean, look at all the knowledge you have, right? With all the experience that you have, right? You can you can dip your fingers in all of these different places and use the experience and the knowledge you have from all these different places, right? I mean, who said that, you know, this industry has to work this way? Who said that this system doesn't work in in banking? Right. Like you, whatever knowledge and experience you have, you bring that with you wherever you go. You know, and I know I'm sure while you have kids, I have kids. I know that I used to say that to my kids, you know, they would come home after, you know, their four-hour shift and you know, when they were in high school and say, I'll never need that for anything. I don't know why, it's so unimportant. And you know, they bitch and complain. And I would say, you know, listen, you might not see that you're using it right now, but you watch in 20 years, you're gonna look back and go, holy man, what I learned at my first job. I took with me everywhere I went, using it in a different way, right? And we all know this, right?
SPEAKER_01Either I really want to do more of that or I'm gonna really stay away from that, right?
SPEAKER_02Right, right, exactly, right? Like, and that's how it works, that's how life goes. Like, you don't you don't learn something for no reason. There's a reason for everything, right? You might not really it's like math, like who likes learning math, right? Unless you're a real math brain, right? It's not fun, right?
SPEAKER_01But it's like your perspective and discernment. So a lot of people are scared to discern things in their lifetime. They're like, I read that book, and that is that is true. It's a lie, it must be true. It's right, right? They think like that is got no, it's written in stone. Nope, can't change. Well, I'm gonna beg to disagree. Like, I I after two, like a degree, a diploma, and I probably have about 20 certificates, including my financial planning certificate. After all of that, and then I was exposed to the what are the possibilities that what I learned in school could could be different? What if it was a different perspective? What if I could do it differently and still have better results or the same results or yeah. What if it was different?
SPEAKER_02I still know all that stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You just I got to test that because I built I built Sultrary Wellness Center.
Discernment And Challenging The Rules
SPEAKER_01As the co-founder. And during that process, and like you said, you kind of learn from your jobs and you bring it forward. So during my government job, I was um what's called the customer service finance manager. And that person dealt with all the cash for the city. So I had to learn all of the different jobs for all of the city. So whether you were at a pool, whether you're at the RCMP, whether you're in planning development, whether you were in accounting, whether you were, didn't matter. Wherever there was cash inside that city, I got to, I got to go learn where all those jobs came from to make sure the cash flow process was working. So in that job, even though it was all cash, I got to learn about planning and development. So through that process, in the building of Sultary Wellness Center, they would tell me, well, no, this is a bylaw. You can't, you have to do this because it's a bylaw, right? So there's a new accessibility bylaw in Edmonton where if you're building a new commercial building, they want all the bathrooms to be accessible. And which I totally agree with as far as at least having one. Like you definitely want to be able to have at least one accessible bathroom for people that are in, you know, disabilities or wheelchairs or walkers or whatever. Of course, I totally believe that. However, they were trying to force us to turn all three of our showers and two bathrooms into accessible bathrooms. But with that comes these electronic doors with these new kick plates. Um, so for me to do all of those bathrooms, all of them, was going to be $100,000 extra than what we had budgeted. Okay, so I agree that yes, I agree with what you're saying. And that extra $100,000 price tag is not really mine to bear as far as I'm concerned. And I would love to say that they're our customer, but they're not. If you can't sign a waiver saying you can get in out of the float pods safely on your own, I don't have the equipment to get you in and out. I don't like, I just don't have it. So we're not an aquatic center. It's like, you know, if you go to a city of Edmonton pool, they have the equipment to get you in and out. So that is part of their requirement. They have to have that bylaw, you know, passed. So for me, I was like, but I know that a bylaw is not really a law. So it's something that can be challenged. So it did take me some time and it cost me about a thousand dollars to challenge it, but I won the argument. So at the end of the day, at the end of this project, because I was able to challenge some of these bylaws, because they just didn't fit our model. Like even my construction manager was like, Shauna, just sign it and do it. And I'm like, no, I don't believe it's mind to bear. But at the end of the day, between the things that we want, it was that we saved $160,000 on this job. Wow. Yeah, because I was able to look at it and discern and go, okay, I hear what you're saying, it makes sense, but it doesn't make sense for my model. Doesn't make sense for me. So is it really a law? I was able to tap into municipal affairs, I was able to tap into the mayor, I was able to tap into different departments, and at the end of the day, that that bylaw did not match my requirements and they waived it. So can you have another discernment in your lifetime? Can you look at things and go, what are the other possibilities? Does that fit my mold? Does that fit my model? Right? Like you can do it in so many different things. A lot of people go investing, like, oh no, you can only have G I Cs. No, you can only have many mutual funds. Oh no, it's only silver and gold. Well, what's true? What's what's beneficial for you? What fits in your risk tolerance? What fits in, right? Like, can you discern if and if you had the right person that was educating you, you you could have a bunch of all three of it. You don't know, right? Yeah. Like, never get into real estate. And other people like always get into real estate. You have to do your own discernment. Do you have to do your own thing?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's it's that's it's yeah, that's a choice that you have to make, right? And you have to know, you have to know what what um risk your is is involved with everything. Totally. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01People that have waited five years to buy a house because they're like, no, it's not the right time in the market. And I can tell you, after all the years I've been in doing mortgage and stuff, there is never the right time to time a market. If you're getting in, always just get in. You're if you're planning on selling it in a year, that that's a risk in itself.
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SPEAKER_01If you're going into a long-term purchase, just purchase. Yeah. You don't know what the future's gonna hold. Yeah, you you there's no way to know, right?
SPEAKER_02I mean, sure, we all know like the buy low, sell high. Well, that doesn't really work, right? Because if you're buying or if you're selling, you're gonna have to buy too.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. You was in the sell in the high market, now you gotta buy in the high market. So it's like you gotta have again, you gotta think about it and have discernment of there's never really a right time. Just it just is, just do. Yeah, and there's risks to everything that you're gonna do. So you have to outweigh the risk because of what you're doing. And at the end of the day, as long as I know that I'm gonna take care of my property and I want to stay in it longer term, I don't know where I'm gonna be in five years. I might want to send this as a rental property, or I might want to sell it completely, or who knows? Yeah, who knows? Yeah, exactly. Just get in. Don't let that fear of, oh my god, I might fall. Yeah, that's in most alignment. Have your list. What do I want? What do I need? And you know, the other thing I've seen over the years too is people go, they're pre-approved for let's say $480,000. Well, now they're looking at a house that's $480,000, but is that smart? I don't know. Did you like do you like to be housebroke? Because those numbers are based on housebroke, right? Like maybe start at $300 and give yourself some wiggle room and time to grow. Like, but some people want to go right there. No, I'm here, I want to go there. But then life doesn't feel very good when you have no money at the end of the day. Right. And and the thing is, all your money then goes into your house and you don't right? Yeah. And then if anything goes wrong, do you have a savings if a roof leaks or if a furnace goes or hot water tank goes, and all of a sudden you need two grand this month? Like, who knows? Or $20,000 because your roof is gone. Yeah, yeah. Or you handle taking on another loan, or there's so many things. There's so many things. Yeah. Well, don't have fear, but yeah, do have some discernment. Yeah, you need to have to go, like, what are the possibilities?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. And so I that's I want to bring it back to our victory over fear. And
Visibility Fears And Judgment
SPEAKER_02and I I'm wondering, like, so in the last few days, I've heard a lot about women not wanting to be seen. Right. And now you as a business owner, yeah, you yourself may have gone through this. You know, you know many, many women. Yeah. Um, we all struggle with it, I think. Everybody, right? Every woman I know struggles with the whole visibility thing in in some degree, right? Whether even the ones that are on stage is there, right? But relationships, leaderships, even like with social media, like I have a fear of these videos. I don't want to do them. And I know that that's how I need to get my message out. But I just have this, I don't know if it's even a fear, it's like a whole resistance wall. Like, no, I don't want to do them. Why do you think being true truly seen feels so vulnerable for most women?
SPEAKER_01Well, I it's honestly a fear of judgment. I feel it's a fear of judgment, and they don't realize that there's no two people alike. So they'll look at someone that's in a magazine or a TV show and they'll be like, Oh, I want to be just like that person. But that person struggles too. Those people that are on social media, they still struggle too. They they they make it look good because that's their job. That's that's the job they chose to do is to be online and to look really good and to put their lives out there. But I promise you, when that camera goes down, the two-year-old is still screaming and the food is still burning, and the lawn still has to be mowed, and the bills have to be paid, and it does happen. And they they feel like, well, they look like they have a better life. Well, they might have a few things that you desire, but it is it really better? There's no reason why you can't have that. However, you are your own person, you are unique, you will always be unique. There's nobody in this world that is exactly like you, even as a twin coming out of the womb. You might have some of the similar similar DNA, but you are two totally different people with two to whose people. Yeah, but you're totally never gonna be the same. So the fear of someone judging you for who you are, but really you should be celebrating who I am and in my uniqueness. And I don't know if the fear of judgment of being seen is ever gonna fully go away, and yet can you manage yourself in a way of like, you know, a lot of times if it's a physical response, right? Um what have I heard? It was something like the fear of public speaking is actually um more people fear public speaking than they actually fear death. Yeah, right? It is, it's the number one fear of public speaking. Like, oh, I might look stupid, or I might look. I can tell you I've gotten on many stages where I just like dropped the ego piece and was like, my message is important. Um, let's see who it lands with. And every single time I'm judging myself the whole time, I get off the stage and I have had women come up to me and being like, I have never heard a speech put together like that before. Right? I mean, we all have that victim story, right? Like this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened. And then in one of the speeches that I did, I went back and tied it and going, you know, even though I had to have that surgery, which means I left that job and then I went into this job, and then I went into this job, and then I went back to school, and then I, you know, had some health issues, and then I had whatever, I was able to go back and go, because of that, I learned about this. And when I learned about this, I got this knowledge, and when I learned about this, I got this knowledge, and when I learned about this, I got this knowledge. And then when I built Soltuary, I saved $160,000 and I was able to help people choose to heal them themselves in that facet because I've been through all of that. So I was able to tie it back into sometimes the terrible things that you go through or what you feel are terrible things that you go through, are actually the biggest gifts that you'll ever learn in your lifetime.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So can we look at something and go like that God, that felt really, really heavy and really hard. And yet, is there a gift in it? So if you've been in the practice of it today, going like I got in a car accident today, like that was crappy. But is there a gift in it? Well, I kind of wanted a new car. Okay, my insurance changed a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I was you know, it tells me that I was a I need a pause in life, right? Like there's so many different gifts that could potentially happen just because of one negative thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And you hear something like that. Many of us don't want to see that, right? Many of us don't want to see the gift in that. All we see is, oh man, my car got beaten up, or I can't, I don't can't drive, or whatever it is. Yeah. So at at Salt, I'm gonna say it wrong, soltuary. Sultuary well, this center. Um, now it's it just past a year, am I right?
SPEAKER_01No, we just opened in February.
SPEAKER_02Just opened, just opened. That's right.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it took me two years to build it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, I was because I remember hearing when you started. So now you also deal with the nervous system and fear at right at the Sultuary Wellness
Fear In The Body And Trauma
SPEAKER_02Center. Yeah. So tell me, um, explain how fear shows up in the body and why keeping ourselves regulated matters when we are trying to grow or to make changes in our life and in our body.
SPEAKER_01Right. So the nervous system, I mean, there's so many things that can set you off kilter. Okay. So often if the nervous system is unregulated, you're not very present in life. You want to check yourself out quite often. So you're scrolling your phone, or you're binging on food, or you're laying in bed, or you're making yourself so busy that you have zero downtime. And sometimes it looks like that, like the complete opposite of somebody that would look lazy, let's say. Um, burnout, like there's so many different things that can happen. Some people just get in that mode and they get themselves addicted to that state. And so then all of a sudden they're in this high, heightened state all the time and they don't know how to actually calm down. So there's other people that have been through trauma straight up. So there's trauma and there's complex trauma. So sometimes it is now a pattern that your brain is having a really tough time releasing. So sometimes it's just patterns and sometimes it's trauma. Either or can be fixed and regulated. Okay. You're if you're taught the right tools. So no different than going to the gym. If you go to the gym, you're working out, it's not like you go once and you're like, sweet, I'm the buff. I got all that weight off. I'm like, I wish it wasn't that easy. Right? It's a practice. So it is a practice. It is something that you need to go. Sometimes it's uncomfortable. I get it, but there's always a benefit at the end. So when people come and practice things like floating, for example, you are able to all of a sudden have no, no uh stimuli. So no light, no sound. The water is um just a small degree below your body temperature, so you feel weightless, and you're just in this space of nothingness, which is so foreign in today's world. So foreign. But in years ago, and even over just a hundred years ago, the world was quiet. There wasn't much light, there wasn't all this technology. Life was simple. You were grounded lots. Yes, you worked, yes, you had fears, yes, but it was a very different life. So we're today, we're just like, oh, we're always there. Now, our nervous system is meant to come in and out. So there's the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system will click on often when you're going through lots of stuff. So your trauma response can take you there. That um being stuck in that busy, busy, busy mode or just stuck in your head, or ADHD, like there's so many things. OCD, there's PTSD, there's um oh my god, all the D's. So there's so many things that can get you stuck into that. And the other part with trauma, if I want to add another layer to it, is that once you've experienced trauma, your brain now thinks of things a little bit differently. So there's the amygdala, there's the hippocampus, and there's the prefrontal cortex that all kind of work together when there's a trauma response. So the way it kind of works is your uh amygdala is basically like your most reptilian part of your brain. So it's like the most archaic part. It's the one that wants to keep you safe, though. So that's the one that'll all of a sudden put you in fight, flight, freeze, fawn. Um, there's also faint now, I believe, as well. And so those things can look very different for lots of different people. So if the amygdala kicks on, because there's been a trauma that happens, and it can be a small trauma like little T trauma, or it can be a big trauma, or it can be a multiple layers of little T traumas, and all of it hits the body the same. So someone's like, I've been through this major thing and you've only been through this little thing. Listen, it is so different for everybody. You cannot compare this trauma to that trauma. Little tiny little T traumas over a lifetime is way more dangerous than sometimes just that one big T trauma. Right. Like don't ever judge mine's bigger than yours. Um, the brain is going to work the same. So the amygdala will take over, and then all of a sudden the hippocampus, which is where all the memories are stored, gets kind of jumbled up. Okay. So instead of being like this happened at 8 o'clock and this happened at 810, this happened at 820, this happened at 8.30. Now it's like, oh my gosh, I remember that smell and it sounded like this and it felt like that, and I heard that and it looked like this. So all of a sudden the amygdala goes, but I remember that more than that it happened at eight and eight ten and eight twenty. So the memories get jumbled. So all of a sudden, you're now what I call scanning for tigers. So someone said that to me. I'm always scanning for tigers. Even though I have every tool to ever kill one, there's actually none around. My body automatically scans for tigers. So when I walk into a room, I'm automatically looking for where is the danger that could happen in the room. So as somebody who has experienced multiple layers of trauma, so complex PTSD, I have had a really tough time in my lifetime, especially after a brain injury, getting to a point of just calm. I my body automatically scans and I don't even know it's doing it. Does that make sense? So it's always looking for can I get out of here? Where's my back have to be? Where do you know? Always looking. Now, when those two things are happening, amygdala comes online, hippocampus is now taken over and changed the way the memories work, the prefrontal cortex shuts down. So the prefrontal cortex is where all of your reasoning brain is. So your emotional stability, um your impulse control, your um, what else is there? Just it's your reasoning brain. It's what goes, maybe I shouldn't do that because this might be the consequence, right? That shuts down. So that's why fright, sorry, fight, flight, freeze, or fawn might kick in. So fight is that like I'm gonna fight you back. And so what I what we can do with soltuary is help people calm down enough and they learn to regulate the body system so that it comes out of the sympathetic, which is that fight, flight, freeze, fawn, into the parasympathetic. So the vagus neural kick online and it now starts to calm the body down. Now, that does not mean we're broken, that means your body's doing what it's supposed to do. So having your sympathetic nervous system kick online is exactly what your brain was designed to do. It's keep you safe. Okay, you are designed, but you're not meant to live there. Does that make sense? You're not meant to live in that heightened state. You're meant to come in and out. Like so when you look at a brainwave, it comes into these in and out states. Right. No different than the body and the nervous system. You are meant to come in and out. You're meant to still get mad. It's not like you're ever gonna live a life and never get mad again. Um, you're meant to get sad. You're meant to like, but you're meant to process it and not store it. Okay. So Soultuary was designed so that you can go into a float and really calm the nervous system. You can go into red light and help heal some of the cellular
Regulation Tools And Wellness Modalities
SPEAKER_01repair pieces so that the pain is not so bad. You can experience a massage. We also have neurofeedback. Neurofeedback is probably one of the most brilliant brain trainings I have ever seen. The company is owned by Dara Kennedy, and we're lucky to have her in our space. And it is absolutely incredible. So I've done 25 sessions myself. Most people only need about 10. And what it does is it trains my body to come in and out of those brainwave patterns, if that makes sense. Um plunge. Absolutely brilliant. Cold plunge, like I haven't done it yet. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little bit of a chicken. Totally, totally a chicken. However, it'll help your body basically goes into like a vasodilation pump. So your um as soon as you go into the cold plunge, your blood automatically goes to the organs to like help keep it protected and comes away from the day. However, now you have a response in your body that's lowering inflammation, it's having your uh brown fat cell activation kick online. So now you're able to like process your own body fat a little bit better, your metabolism has a chance to kick on. The because the inflammation is reduced, all of a sudden pain can be reduced. So many things can happen, and you're only in there for 30 seconds to two minutes. If you can make it two minutes, I'm high-fiving people because it's tough. Oh, I've done that, I've done the cool blood.
SPEAKER_02I didn't know. Yeah, but so it and I think it was a mental thing, I'll be honest. Right? Because yeah, well, I went to the Nordic Spa here in the Hananascus country. Yeah, and oh my god, I was in this nice warm water. I was so relaxed and calm, and I was with a group of girls, and they're like, Okay, Tina, it's time to go into the cold. And I was like, uh I think I'll just stay here. And they're like, you promise right? They're like, you promise. And so I'm like, okay, fine. So and it's like you walk in on stairs, like you walk down the stairs into the water, and I I'm like looking, and there's all these people, they're sitting, like they're sitting like as if it's warm water. And I'm like, what is wrong with these people? It's cold water. I was like, okay, fine. I took a really big deep breath. I walked down the stairs as quickly as I could, and I do move slow, so it took me longer than most, right? Yeah, I walked in, I walked up to my shoulders, and I said, I'm out. Yeah, I left.
SPEAKER_01But to be honest, that short stint is so beneficial. Even that short, tiny little stint. Oh, it was freezing.
SPEAKER_02Like I it I felt like I was walking. Maybe around five degrees, it's cold. It was freezing, right? And and so when I got out, I was like, Oh my god, I actually feel good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, your body, all of a sudden the blood will come right back to the feet, it'll warm right back up.
SPEAKER_02And I've heard, and I and I don't do this all the time, but every once in a while I remember in the shower, they say that if you turn the water not to cold, but to the coolers, like cooler, yeah, so that it's a a big difference from what you're washing with, right? That is also the same as a cold pun. Right. And so, and I've also heard that women actually don't need to have it as cold as men. I don't know how true that is, but I have heard that.
SPEAKER_01I think it's it just depends on the person. So, like our our water, so we did a single use tub. Most people, most places you go in, like Nordic, that's a commercial use tub, which means they got to put chemicals in it. Um, there's a lot of like regulatory factors for it. Ours is single use, meaning only one person can go in, we have to dump it and we go back. So, I mean, there's pros and cons to both sides. The pro to ours is I if you don't want five degrees and you're let's say you're new at it, I can do it at 15 degrees and it's still cool, but you're still getting the body temperature, like the benefit from it. People find it a little bit more manageable to get in. They'll jump into the steam shower for the two minutes after, and so that pump starts to happen. So the the your blood vessels constrict in the cold and then they open back up into the warmth and they go back and forth. So next thing you know, your blood's flowing better, things are healing. There's parts of your body that are getting oxygen again that they haven't had oxygen in a really long time. So many benefits.
SPEAKER_02Wow. I didn't, I didn't honestly didn't know there were so many benefits to it. But you know, I needed that like five years ago when I started Parametopause. Like there were days we went to Italy, it was like plus 42. It was so odd. And I'm having a hot flash on top of it. Oh no. I was like a hundred degrees, right? And then I hear about these cold plunges. I was like, well, where the hell was that? I need to carry that in my backpack, right?
SPEAKER_01Like I was oh my gosh. It was so and that would be that would be a tough one. 42 degrees and a hot flash. That would that'd be like it was tough. You went into a fight response probably without even having trauma. You were like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was yelling at my kids, like, you know, they were like, okay, mom, I don't know what's and of course at the time I didn't even know what was happening, right? But it was when they started. And of course, they have to start in the middle of summer like that. I'm like, what is going on? I thought I was going crazy, right? Then of course, within a few months I realized, oh, well, that makes sense, right? But if I could carry a cold plunge with me, those, those. Days I would have.
SPEAKER_01You would have, right?
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01The showers. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01Some people don't. I mean, they some people won't do it at home. So that's why we create the experience of it, right? Um, and then often what do people do? Like some people have we have what they call a reset package, and so it has six different modalities in it. And some people will come and split it up into two, or they'll they'll do the whole day. So if they do the whole day, they'll do uh cold plunge steam shimmer for a half hour, then we'll put them into um uh an infrared sauna for 30 minutes, and then they'll do a float for an hour, and then they'll come out and do red light, and then they go into a soaky bed, which is another infrared experience. Now, during that whole time, we will make sure that you're drinking lots of water. We need you to be hydrated the whole time because your body's going through a lot. But one day of that, I've seen people come out and be like, that was the best day ever. Like they're just so much at the end of it, and they're like, you know, their face is all messed up because they're like, those. And then sometimes we'll add a massage too. And I'll tell you, it's it's been such a great experience. Like we've only opened in February. Our grand opening was in February. We've had 20 plus reviews, all five star, which is incredible. And people being like, I can't wait to go do it again. So we've created like packages, but also memberships. So the packages are like that one and done, but you get everything together rather than single use because our single prices are a lot more expensive. The packages that, like, I really just want to try it, and then the membership is for the people that want to practice. So the people that are going, like, I really enjoyed that. I want to do it again. And so inside the membership, let's say you don't really, really don't like whole plunge. Now you can switch it and have like two floats, or you can have two infrareds, or you can't like interchange it a little bit. Right. Okay. And we make it such a good price. Like, I think it's for $139.99. You get a whole whack of things covered. You get free floats, you're able to share it with a family member. Um, you get retail discounts, you can invite a friend for a lot cheaper. Like it's really, really well.
Access, Pricing, Research, And Closing
SPEAKER_02Is there any kind of science or study of any kind that explains or like you know, kind of tells us how often we can do these kinds of things? Is it something we should be doing like regularly? I mean, obviously, money is an issue for a lot of people, right? And time. I mean, there's there's time that goes into that. Like it's you don't just get to go for a, you know, a massage even, and you know, it's just the hour of your time. Like your body needs, I don't know if it's called recovery, but I know when I go for a massage, like I can't just go for a massage and continue on like normal. I need a good hour or two afterwards so that my body moving a lot of your lymphatics around.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Yeah, your lymphatic system is just below your skin, right? So, I mean, that's where all the toxins that don't come out through your your waist mechanisms. So if they don't come out through there, it sits inside, um, it sits inside your skin. So, and it doesn't have a pump. So, which means if you're not moving and you're not sweating, that those toxins aren't going anywhere. So, that's why a lot of people get into disease and they get sick and they have migraines and they don't feel good, they're stuck having weight on their body, all of those things because their lymphatics is fully drained or full close fully. Yeah. And so I understand the money piece. And if you really think about it, one night at a movie theater or one night out for a dinner could literally start to reset your nervous system uh over, you know, a practice throughout a month. Yeah. It's like it's really no different. And if they have a wellness, let's say a wellness um, there's like health benefits and a wellness benefits, it's usually the whole thing can usually be covered. So even in our membership, we've included like our massage therapists have agreed to like lower their price inside so that they can have a monthly massage for a lower price. And then people could still direct bill that portion as long as they wait until the day that they have their massage. So there's lots of ways to like make it work for you. Um, you know, we've really been trying to focus on people that need it. So like the nurses, the teachers, the firefighters, the paramedics, like, you know, um psychology people. Like there's so many people that live in that fight or flight all the time where when their shift ends, there it doesn't end. They're going home and they're still heightened, and which means they're not, they're not um present with their family. They have a day off and they're a little bit crankier, or you got, you know, they need that extra space because they just really need that reset and they're not getting it. So that's why we've developed this is because you know, integrity seminars owns it. So integrity seminars is the mind and and the spirit piece of the world, right? How do you how do you change your life? The soltuary piece of it is the body. So they wanted to really combine the you know, the mind, soul, and body together. And so now they have the trilogy there. And so, really, if anybody really wants to change their life, they have the ability to walk through integrity. They can come in and now take care of their body. And either way, no matter what way you look at it, they're able to take care of their own personal inner soul. So I love that. Yeah, I mean, integrity's been here 25 years, and Sultra Bray is brand new. So that it was a dream of hers to have it. We have two pods, we have a coal plunge and steam shower, we have two infrareds on us. We're hoping to get a third. Um, we were blessed to have neurofeedback come in there, and what a game changer! Like, changed my life. Um, I know so many, especially like the high functioning people, like the CEOs and the the, you know, my friend here that has this huge business that just grew over six years, loves it because it keeps her regulated on a steady scale. She doesn't she can like observe things without having to react. Like that's what it kind of does, right? It's this beautiful combination of modalities that really and then my daughter did it. She's 10 years old, she has ADHD and was able to come off all of her meds in eight sessions. Oh my gosh. Okay, so that's like it's and and it's covered for benefits. Like it's a brilliant, absolutely brilliant. You know, and then we just got um coverage for veterans as well, right? So we were able to get Medivy coverage, so now veterans can come in and have um direct benefits. And uh we've really, really created it to be a winning scenario for anybody, whether you come in once or whether you come in and practice, it's your choice. But I'll tell you the people that even come in once want to come back. I mean, almost everybody's rebooked. I love that.
SPEAKER_02I actually I really love that, and I think because I think we live in a world where we have the resources available to us as a common person, not it's not just for like, you know, you know, the high society people anymore, right? Like we can all use this. So, you know, like I encourage anyone um, you know, in the Edmonton area, of course, to reach out to you, Shauna, or if there's, you know, in the city that you're in, if there's any of these modalities, you know, look into them, you know, like take take advantage of it because absolutely our bodies need it, our nervous system needs it. We there's so much coming at us 24 hours a day, right? I mean, even we don't think about it, we're going to sleep, you know. But the the lights on the TV screen, the lights on your alarm clock, your phone, like it's all coming at us all the time. And it's keeping our nervous system always, always active. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, it can be totally life-changing. And then we have student massage therapists as well. So people that have had, you know, if they've already taken the integrity program, so if they're in that that alumni or whatever, and they end up getting our our packages, then the student massages are free for them.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I love that. That's yeah. So you're making like you're making it even easier, right? For these clients, you know, you your potential clients to to have that, like they're you're making it accessible to everyone. And that is that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01And it's not about us really, like I said, it's not, I mean, yes, it costs money to run the place, but it's not about us really making money, it's about helping the world really become better at taking care of themselves. Because life can look so much nicer when your particular activating system is calmed right down. Yeah. Right. If you're always looking for the red cars going home, you're gonna see a heck of a lot of red cars, but you missed all the blue ones. Yeah. So when that is constantly activated and you're always looking at that red car, like you're always activated, you're always heightened, you're always like snappy, and you know, all of a sudden the joy gets sucked out of your life because you're always looking at the the really heightened. So if you're able to like calm that all down, all of a sudden you're like, wow, look at that beautiful flower today. Wow, look at that little duck that's like the brand new ducks that we just saw yesterday, like two geese over there and all the little geese slings. You know, there were six of them there. We took a minute just to stop and be like, Look, those are so cute, and just making sure the cars didn't hit them. Yeah, but you would forget to even see any of that thing.
SPEAKER_02If you're like, Oh, I gotta get this stuff done and I gotta rush home, I gotta do this, I gotta do that. Yeah, we've all been there, right? We've all been through that part of life. And you know, when you can take that moment to just sort of go, ha, yeah, like let it stop for a moment, right? Like give me 15 minutes or an hour or whatever it takes for each of these modalities.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sometimes you can't afford it, we can teach you things to do at home. To do it at home, yeah. There's a lot of different breathworks and tappings, and there's different things you can do at home, and we'll teach it because we just want you to get better. So if you want to come experience it because it's easier, great. And if you still need just some little bit of help on the other side, we can do that too. It's all about what can we do to help you to have a better life. And there's tons of research. Please, like honestly, research and govpub.met is a really great site. That's all where all the medical research documents in the around the world get dumped. Um, there's a ton of research for all of this, and that's beautiful over every single one of these modalities. Even neurofeedback has like 3,000 plus peer reviews of different psychologists. Like it's it's it is a it's there for a reason. There's a study happening in the world right now about floating um because it helps with anxiety. It's actually helped cure a few people with uh anorexia of all things because the nervous system calms down. Like literally, oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so okay. I mean, clearly we could have probably two or three more conversations, you and I here, just going through all the different modalities and how it helps us, right? Like it's not just about the nervous system. Yes, the nervous system is important, but there's so many things that you know, all of Soltuary Wellness Center can help us with, you know, and you're, I mean, you're not the only the only spa that has these, right? I mean, there's many of them around the world. Take advantage of them, right? Take advantage of it because it's there for us to better ourselves. We can't change the world, right, until we change ourselves.
SPEAKER_01Totally. It's uh, I mean, it's about collaboration. So we I I promise you, I learned from the other float centers in the world. We've had um someone in Shurro Park coach us through um different things that we've had in our float center, all about collaboration because really at the end of the day, it's about somebody else having a better life. And if that's what we can provide, great.
SPEAKER_02I love it. I love it. Thank you so much for being here today. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, your wisdom, your honesty, and your heart. I mean, I know I can feel that this is something you do to help the world. I know that I can feel it. So thank you so much. We really didn't talk about victory over fear. Well, I mean, we started off give me a call, I'll help you out. We did dive more into like, you know, the nervous system and how to fix it and you know, and all the things. But I mean, I think I mean you're always welcome to come back. You know, our listeners will reach out to you. You will have your, you know, your your handles on the show notes. And and I, you know, I really encourage our listeners to reach out to you or to someone, you know, in the same business as you in their cities. So thank you so much for being here today. Appreciate it. If today's episode spoke to you, I'd love for you to share it with another woman who may need this reminder right now. And if you're in a season where you're ready to rebuild your confidence, reconnect with yourself, and step into aligned action, I'd love to support you through in full bloom coaching and community spaces. You can connect with me to learn more about upcoming programs, workshops, and ways we can work together. Until next time, keep blooming through every season.
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