Stress Eating

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We talk about what happens to your nutrition when life gets stressful and your routine falls apart, and how to stay close to your health goals without pretending you never crave comfort food. We share realistic “meet yourself halfway” strategies, two fast paleo-friendly meals, and why protein becomes even more important as we age.

• moving stress and disrupted routines shaping cravings and choices
• comfort foods and targeted cheats that stay aligned with goals
• keeping quick staples on hand to avoid defaulting to junk food
• cauliflower fried rice with eggs, avocado oil and coconut aminos
• egg white wraps with jackfruit, slaw and a paleo-style sauce
• making dietary change sustainable through creativity and experimentation
• listening to your body and adjusting protein intake over time
• simple protein rule of thumb and why too much can backfire

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Moving Stress And Comfort Foods

Cheats With Boundaries And Alignment

Fast Paleo Staples And Shopping Smarter

Two Easy Meals That Actually Satisfy

Protein Needs Over 40 And Balance

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Namaste, and welcome to the divas that care network. I'm your host, Gia Raquel Rose, owner of Airs Above Yoga, and you're listening to Above the Ground podcast. If this is your first time tuning in, our network is going into its 16th year and is listened to in over 30 countries. I would like to personally thank you for giving me the gift of your time. As always, it is my honor to hold space with you. And I'd like to follow up with this nutrition episode from the last one where we talked about the commitment to the incredible edible egg. And essentially the idea of making that sacrifice, which for me was based on the Lenten season, um, and the idea of you know sacrificing something important with a paleo diet, meat is definitely a staple, unfortunately or fortunately. Uh and so before we dive into that, I just want to make a little mention of the uh different background. Um, so and that will come into play for the conversation today quite a bit, actually. So essentially, new studio space. Um, and we will probably have uh a varying a varying background once I uh get everything situated, but I have uh moved, and so this will be um part of the new setup. So I'm coming to you from my mat today, and uh just thank you for joining me there. And I hope that you enjoy. So, with that in mind, as I'm sure most people who have gone through Move are aware, it can be very, very stressful. Um, routines are thrown off, you know, priorities shift and become immediate, right? Um, pending the moving date, the moving truck, you know, all the things that you need to uh like come come with it, right? The packing, the unpacking, the finding things before you've settled in. So it's it's it's a blessing, and it's also, you know, part of um a process, a purging process for many people. Um, and so from this new space, which I'm very, very grateful for and happy to be in, um I the the diet factor, the routine factor really plays a massive role when you are going through other stresses. We'll say, you know, imposed, and I don't mean imposed in a in a negative way, but life happens, right? Like things that come out of nowhere or opportunities that come up that are too good to pass up, right? Uh so they don't it doesn't necessarily need to be a bad, a bad thing. But when your routine gets a monkey wrench thrown into it, your diet generally will shift. The the staples that you cling to will will move away from you, or you may find yourself responding to your body's needs in a very, very different way. And I think a lot of people can relate to that when it comes to comfort foods. And so, what are your typical comfort foods? Junk food, right? Like your fried chicken, your mashed potatoes, um, your potato chips. And I definitely, during this moving process, sat down and ate a whole bag of potato chips. And I had to be okay with that, right? So leave the lucky charms, keep the potato chips. Um, but again, you know, it's a matter of listening to your body, having the discipline, and knowing that in times of stress, you know, it's better to stay in alignment with the overall goals and have your cheats, right? Um, like you know, it's never it's never a great idea to eat an entire bag of potato chips, let's be honest. Um, even if it's a smaller than a large size bag. Uh so you have to meet yourself halfway in times of stress. And I think that for my body, when I get stressed out, I generally tend towards, I'm less of a sweet tooth, even though chocolate is definitely one of my comfort foods. Thank God cacao is actually, you know, of the right chocolate, right? The the dark chocolate with the high uh cocoa content generally is is considered an antioxidant and has health benefits. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick with that. And I hope you guys will join me with that as well. When it comes to those, those cheats, right? So keeping in alignment with your dietary plan. I'm not even gonna say restrictions, but your dietary plan. So even with the the move and the you know, the lack of consistency in routine for the past couple weeks, I think it's a matter of acknowledging. So again, for me, I have less of a sweet tooth, especially when I get stressed. I go for salt and fat, hence the the mighty potato chip. So um, I know a lot of people will go to sugar. Um, and you know, they'll they'll go to, you know, donuts or you know, funnel cake like that, that fatty, greasy, doughy kind of kind of comfort food. And and there's a place for that, right? Like you need to, like the night that I ate the potato chips, it was like, you know what? I am you you start to hit a wall as you go through processes in life. And and if you feel like you need to eat the potato chip in that moment, then you do that. What you don't do is as someone who's committed to, you know, the paleo lifestyle, I didn't go eat pasta. And I think that is where, you know, this idea of I had a whole episode and I encourage you to go back and look at it. Um, where, you know, I love my mom dearly, um, and I said, you know, we had a conversation about, you know, maybe don't just eat the cake. Maybe that one time is gonna be a sliding scale and the and the discipline that it takes. And there is an element of that, I don't want to contradict that because I do believe in that, and that's why I'm saying there has to be balance. So if you're going to have that moment of submission or that moment of giving in to you know the temptation, if you will, um, try to keep it in alignment with the higher overall trajectory of your goals. And so again, it's the it's the not caving in and getting the pasta as much as you may want the pasta in my situation. Um, and even as I noticed as I went through this period of not eating meat, my body and and and with the stress levels kind of increasing, my body was definitely craving more protein. And so there were a couple nights where I I went and I ate fish, which you know, when you're when you're talking about Lent, fish is fish. I don't know why it's not technically considered a meat, but um you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays during Lent for anyone who does not know that. Um, and so to that end, you're allowed to eat fish. Like so a lot of um a lot of I'll say holy uh congregations will have fish fries on Fridays. Um, and it's like a celebration, and people don't eat meat on Fridays, and so you know, and I'm sure it's not just a Catholic religion, I just only speak to the that that I'm aware of. So with that in mind, I have had a little more fish than I was having previously, um, just because I felt like my body needed the protein. Um, but again, I tried to keep that that kind of fine line, even though I really didn't want to go there. Um, I will say it's been going relatively well, um, eating mostly eggs for protein, but there have been a lot of um protein less meals or or I won't even call them necessarily meals because again, when you're moving and you're you know you're packing and you're doing all the things, you kind of just go to whatever you can grab. Um and thankfully that was still in alignment and relatively healthy. But also, you know, it's a matter of of having that that those go-to's in your refrigerator, in your pantry, the things that are quick and easy. Um, for me, a lot of times it's it's a nice guacamole and grain-free chips if I know that I'm just not gonna be able to. And there you go with your salt and your carbs and your fat. So it's not the healthiest, but again, at least it is a healthy fat from the avocados. At least it is, you know, a grain-free chip and not a toastito. And no shade on toastitos, they are delicious for people who can and enjoy corn. But it's that kind of keeping things so that when you know you hit a wall, when you know you're too tired to let's say come home at nine o'clock at night and cook something, right? Because we all get into those places, whether it's work, whether it's whether it's taking care of your family, whether it is, you know, even just travel, whatever the reason is, sometimes you come home and you need to crash and you don't want to crash out your nutrition by by you know having no options and then winding up eating a bag of potato chips. So, you know, to that end, you know, have different options that are easy and quick to go to for you in times of stress. And and at that life, it's nice to be able when you start to modify and make dietary changes or you start to recognize what foods serve your body and what foods don't serve your body, to start to, let's say, streamline your shopping list and get it to a place where you have some of the same or varying, you know, similar things that come together for you during the week when you go to um when you go to your refrigerator or when you go to your stove and you're you're getting ready to make something. Um, and one of the things I will say, so this was one of my favorite meals that I've been making um throughout this period when when I have the time. I have two favorites. I'm gonna share them with you, um, and not to say that they are, you know, the end all be all. But um, I was always a very big fan. I'm not a big fan of, you know, like the whole of like the fried kind of idea of Chinese food, air quotes for those of you that are listening and not watching. Um, it's just never been like a top choice of mine. But what I do love is fried rice. And obviously on the paleo lifestyle, you can't have fried rice. So, what has been a big staple for me that I have been really, really enjoying. Um, and even when I when I did order it, it was always like protein less, and it would just be extra eggs because I just love the eggs in it. Um, so now I've been making a cauliflower rice with, you know, peas and carrots and some chopped shallot and cauliflower rice and a bunch of eggs. And sometimes I'll even add egg whites for a little bit of extra protein in there. Um, and it's quick and it's easy. And I use avocado oil, and you can use, you know, whatever oil you like. And I use a lot of coconut aminos, which is um a paleo and also I will say healthier alternative than the uh the soy sauce for those of you who are not or off, I'll say off the legumes or off soy in general, because I know that soy can be not only an inflammation trigger, but it has some some links to cancer as well. So soy is something that I've stayed away from long before I went paleo. Um, so that's one. So it's very, very good. It's super quick, it's super easy to make. Um, it's delicious, it's filling, and it's all vegetables and protein at the end of the day with healthy fat and avocado oil. So there's one little go-to, easy, quick whip-up. Even if you're tired, you can make that happen. Um, the hardest thing to do is chop the shallot at the end of the day. And I buy I buy the frozen organic peas and carrots and pre-riced cauliflower so that it is that much easier. And that's another thing that I'll say when it comes to times of stress in life, which no one gets out of here without them, right? Like they're just they're part of life. Make it easy. Is it a little bit cheaper? Is it a little bit less processed to buy the head of cauliflower and chop it up? Absolutely. That being said, meet yourself where you are. And I will tell you, this is and and I'm gonna I will throw shade on myself for this, but I've seen myself throw away a completely whole cucumber that I never got around to chopping up. And it's it's bothersome to me because it's wasteful, right? Um, and in addition to that, I know that if I go to the store and I buy the pre-cut cucumber and I sit and I have my guacamole, I'm gonna grab it and eat it over or with the cassava chips because it's there and it's done. Now, is it adding plastic waste because it's it's cut up and pre-packaged? Yes, it is. So there is, again, there's always gonna be like a reason why not. But at the end of the day, when it comes to your health, and I'm not saying that you should always buy the pre-packaged stuff, but I am saying at the end of the day, if it comes down to you walking into your house exhausted and you looking at a head of cauliflower in your refrigerator, thinking about rinsing it, chopping it, and and going through that process and then cooking, and then you don't eat it and you grab the bag of potato chips instead, then give yourself a break and buy the buy the frozen, right? It's it's it's okay, right? Like give yourself some grace with that. And I think that that's so important is to is to know yourself, know that that the me I want to be has all the time in the world to cut up the cucumber. And the me that I am, and especially the past few weeks, needs needs the package of pre-cut cucumber, or she will eat the bag of cassava chips and and and admitting that to yourself and knowing that about yourself and letting it be okay. Um, and sometimes there are times where you you not only do you cut the cucumber, but you peel the cucumber and you're very proud of yourself. And in those moments, um, take the win. And so I'm not telling you to always get the the easy thing or the pre-done thing, but I am saying that, especially in times of change or stress or shifts in your life, it's okay to buy frozen. It's okay, it's all right, and and forgive yourself for that and let it be okay. If it gets you to that stove instead of the cutting board, and you think you'll actually move through it because you're exhausted and you're tired and you're, you know, run ragged, then just give yourself that grace, please. Please, please, please. So the other thing that I will say um I have found to be quite delicious, and I will so there's a there's a caveat to this, this little little fun recipe. And the caveat is there's an element, and I believe it's an ayurbeta, that suggests that eating eggs with fruit is actually counterproductive. Or you could even say that it's it's not simply ayurbata, but a lot of nutritionists will say that the way the body processes protein versus carbohydrates, such as a fruit, um, is different. So they always say protein and vegetables, fruit and vegetables, never protein and fruit, or never protein and carbs, which there goes the sandwich, which I know I've mentioned before in passing, but it's a little bit relevant here because I'm breaking that rule because it just tastes very delicious. So um I have found, and I think I mentioned them the last time as we are playing catch up from the uh eggs are the incredible edible egg and the giving up of meat for the month of Lent. And I found these awesome egg life, egg white wraps that are just a lifesaver. Because if you're if you've been on the grain-free wrap wagon, there are many attempts at at wraps that are grain-free that hold together. Some attempts have some success, and other attempts just fail somewhat miserably. Um, and and you know, the wraps kind of crack and crumble, and they're basically, you know, they're wishful thinking wraps, is what I will call them. And I will not name names or brands, um, but it's always been a struggle to kind of find that, you know. Obviously, you can have a lovely corn tortilla, just like you can have a lovely corn tostito, but um, we're talking about grain-free, essentially, wraps as well. So coming from a grain-free place, these egg, they're uh the brand is egg life for anyone who's so inspired. And I think they have about 12 grams of protein per per wrap, if you will. Um, and so it's they're egg whites, so you're eliminating the cholesterol concern, right? They are, I think they the ones that I bought are like everything flavors, they have a little bit of like garlic onion tang to them. Um, and they hold up significantly well to to you know the fajita burrito style um wrapping. So to that end, thinking about uh ways that I could dress it up a little bit, because you know, because they're so I don't even want to call them bland because they taste very, very good, but they're nondescript. I'm gonna call them nondescript. You could take them in any manner of trajectories when it comes to what kind of flavor profile that you're thinking of. And so one of the ones that I found really delicious is, and for those of you who are vegan or vegetarian, I'm sure you're familiar with jackfruit. Um, for those of you who are not jackfruit is is a fruit, but it has um kind of like that Satan bready, kind of stringy texture about it. And so it goes very, very well with savory dishes as like a meat substitute. Now, granted, it is not a protein substitute, it is just a flavorful, well, however you decide to flavor it, it's that doesn't hold a lot of flavor on its own, but it's a way to trick your body into thinking that you're getting meat. Now, again, it does not have the protein that meat has, but it is, you know, a relatively healthy meat alternative. So because you're getting your protein in the egg white wrap, I found that making um frying up some jackfruit that the one that I get is pre-seasoned, so it kind of has that like slow cooked pork or beef seasoned vibe to it, which obviously it's neither of those things, but it like you know, it's like mushroom bacon. It's not bacon. There's no way it's ever gonna be bacon. It tries very hard to be bacon and and in a pinch it'll do the trick, but it is not bacon and nor is jackfruit pulled pork in any capacity. But taking the jackfruit, adding some cabbage slaw, or I even brought like broccoli slaw pre-done, adding some, I believe it's a primal kitchen queso. So again, it's a paleo style um, you know, queso dip. So no queso in sight. Uh, but it's got a really nice flavor to it, and wrapping all that up in a delicious egg life wrap, and I'll tell you, man, it is satisfying, tasty, delicious, filling, and ease, super easy. If you, if you it takes about, I think, eight minutes max to to cook up the stir-ry, and then you're just throwing it a wrap. So when you come home again and you're exhausted and you're starving, and you need that protein pack, which you know, you don't feel like chopping a cauliflower, um, then it it's a really, really great little pulled together option for people. So you have to, when you start to, when you start to play around with your diet, you have to get a little bit creative and you have to be able to um experiment and try new things and you know, add different flavor layers that you can to the foods that you generally eat because that's how you're going to find things that resonate with you. And then you can start to increase your different meal plans for the week or the dinners that you know that you like. And so you can come home and kind of look forward to eating and knowing that it's not going to be this massive chore or this, you know, uh, like, oh, I just don't feel like it. Oh, I can't bring it like the the the I can't be bothered kind of vibe, right? So making sure that whatever it is that you are going to eat, that it's something that inspires you to make it, that's something that you want, right? And even in a restricted diet or an eliminating diet, I had a conversation with a friend of mine where we talked about it being sustainable. And I've talked about keto in the past, and we were talking about that. And I didn't find keto sustainable um for myself, but I know that people do. And and I feel as though paleo for me has always been relatively sustainable. Um, and yes, it takes discipline, it takes effort. And you know, I've I've been to a couple restaurants recently where giving up meat in addition to all of that, it's like there's all there's two things I can eat on the menu, and I have to modify both of them, and one of them's a salad, right? Like, so so I'm not saying it's not without, and you're gonna be the annoying person at dinner. So just wrap your mind around that and come to terms and come to peace with it. But at the same time, you know, you you are your own advocate when it comes to your health and your well-being. And and you have to be able to know what serves your body and what doesn't. So when we talk about, you know, what serves eggs, I my body doesn't have any negative response that I've ever experienced to eggs. Um, they've been a great protein source, they've kept me going. My protein powder, which is a vegan protein powder, made mainly seed-based, um, with with, I believe it is a it's a legume, but there are some paleoacceptable floating legumes, e.g. peas and green beans. So um I believe it is a pea protein base as well. But you know, there are there are ways to get your your needs met and to do so with some flavor and even some fun. So uh but you have to you have to want it and you have to pay attention to your body and you have to kind of get yourself to a place where you're able to not only not only uh realize what your body wants and needs, but also be able to get excited by coming up with different options that you actually enjoy eating. Eating. And it's, you know, it's a Pinterest hole, right? Like there are so many recipes, there are so many options. We are so blessed to live in, you know, where where I am in a first world, right? Quote unquote again, just for just for the idea of that we have so many different options when we go to a grocery store. We're very blessed in that way. And so being able to, instead of taking that for granted, being able to be grateful for that and and use that to your advantage for whatever it is that serves you, your body, and your family. Um that's gonna be the dedication, the the yoga, if you will, for your nutrition, right? That that mindfulness, that practice of taking care of your body through understanding what it wants. And, you know, I do believe for me that in times of stress, my body does crave carbs, carbs and fat. And I will say that the paleo is gonna be, it's a lower carb diet. It's not a no-carb diet, it's a selective carb diet. So I know that for me, I do start to crave the carbohydrates when I get stressed. And so if if I need them, I will allow my, I will eat the bag of potato chips and I will allow my body and their avocado oil, air quotes again, healthy potato chips, right? So making those choices to try to be mindful, if you're gonna be bad, be be good, bad, right? Um, and and just keeping that kind of eye on the horizon, if you will, keeping the rudder moving straight forward towards your ultimate goal. But you know, if a wave pops up here and there, just kind of moving around it, but but staying true to your course. And I think that that is so important. Um, and I want to talk a little bit more about the protein aspect of it as we that we know protein is is integral, especially for women, especially for um as you age, once you're over 40.

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Once you're once you're over 40, you know, the muscle breakdown, it's a thing, it happens. Um, and we need to start to counteract that. So a slightly higher protein intake is positive, right? Um, making sure that you're getting some element of protein with each meal is positive. And like I said, there were some nights during the past few weeks with the move that I definitely had less protein than my body's used to. And I think that's probably part of the reason why I started craving it and going towards the fish a little bit more, because it really was something that I felt I needed to, you know, I'm gonna use the word survive, as much as that sounds dire. It wasn't that dire, but but my body was craving it and was asking for it. And so I I supplied. So I think that learning learning to listen to your body is paramount, first of all. Second of all, knowing the changing needs of your body, like our 20-year-old bodies and our 40-year-old bodies don't need the same things. Um, and certainly the abuse we give to our 20-year-old bodies, our 40-year-old bodies will definitely revolt against. So that element of ensuring that you are adapting to the needs of your body in every moment, especially as those needs change. So a good rule of thumb, and it's just a very generic because protein is, you know, there's there's too high protein, and when that happens, essentially it it stores fat, it stores fat, um, which is was not what you want either. So if you're getting too much protein, it can work against you. So you really want to, it's a balance. Um and and you can go on and look at protein calculators based on, you know, it be based on your weight, based on your age, based on your whether you're male or female. Again, no gender simply for the body composition aspect of it. Um, and then you know, your level of activity. So if you're lifting weights and you're working out and you're a very active person, you're gonna need a little bit more protein. But a nice rule of thumb if you're getting into that over 40 area or you're a little bit more active, is about one gram per kilogram of body weight. So, you know, and and and I don't like Google it, look it up yourself. Um, but that's a nice, that's a nice way to kind of think about it. And then the high end of that is once you start to go towards two grams, then you're getting into probably a little bit of a troublesome area where you may wind up over proteining yourself if that's if that's a thing. Um, and in that way, you will wind up working against yourself and and it will turn to fat on you, which is like the last thing that we want, right? Um so that's kind of that's that's kind of the the idea behind the protein intake and to vary your proteins, right? So for me, it's the protein powder and then and then it's eggs, eggs all day long, um, or you know, a nice piece of fish at dinner. And we all know our protein sources are are not seeds, eggs, legumes for those who can consume legumes, um, fish, obviously. Um, and then you have your animal proteins, like your lean animal proteins. But again, bear in mind that a lot of times there's a there's a correlation between a lot of animal protein, especially, you know, your animal, your red meats, right? Um, those heavier proteins that have a significant impact on the cholesterol as well. And too much protein, not only turning to fat, but also can affect your kidneys. So there's a whole, that's why I don't like to get into the you know requirements, air quotes again, uh, for those of you that have special circumstances or have, you know, issues with um your health in other ways, right? Everyone's health is different. We are all special snowflakes, and there is no right answer or no one size fits all way to go about diet nutrition. It is tailored specifically to you, what your body needs, and that changes over time. And with the development of life and activity level and you know, onset of for me, it was not an immune condition. For others that I know it could be diabetes, whatever, whatever it is that comes into play for you as you gracefully age, um, taking that all into account and being able to roll with the punches. Uh so and always again be mindful of keeping your eye on the horizon, keeping the rudder moving towards that goal, whether it's weight loss, whether it's you know, extra energy, whether it's, you know, any goal that you have, just basic overall health, feeling good, right? Whatever the goal is for you, making sure that you are targeting your cheats and your your your surrenders to the potato chip to in a way that doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, which in my case, for example, there was a delicious pasta dish on a menu that I saw recently, and it was my favorite as I am half Italian, it was a parpadel, and my goodness gracious, did I just wanna eat the entirety, order and eat the entirety of that dish with the stress levels that I've had and uh loving being a pasta lover that I am. Uh so I did not, I did not, and I got a delicious um stuffed acorn swash instead, and it was lovely. So those are the kinds of decisions that you want to kind of keep, keep keep your mind on, keep your eye on, um, eye on the prize. And then, you know, if you if you really, if you're really driving the struggle bus, go ahead and and eat the potato chip and not the pasta. And again, that is a very me specific analogy, but I hope that you know what I mean when I say that because it will be different for you. But there's a way to allow yourself to experience what your body needs and give yourself what your body needs, the salt, the fat, whatever it might be, and still do it in alignment with your overall goals and your overall health and well-being. And you know, don't maybe eat eat all the potato chips a couple nights in a row. That may not be your best choice either. So, with all of that in mind, I just want to tell you how much I appreciate each and every one of you for sharing your space with me and ask that you please feel free to share the same with your loved ones. For more goodness, follow me on all the socials at Above the Ground Podcast and visit my website, airsaboveyoga.com. As always, please don't forget to check out my other episodes and all of my amazing sisters at the Divas That Care Network. 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